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What I always stress in my trainings is that it's simply we're dancing. Your audience doesn't see the technique. The audience sees a piece of art, the fluidness, the dancing, the movement.
I know the step-by-step steps. I've studied them for years. In those moments where we're working together with the child or the system, we are dancing with them. See, there is fluidity and there is a dancing that is established in synchronicity and connection and all those terrific points that you also show around.
There is a step-by-step step, leading, second, number three. Right. I do assume that if we make use of therapy simply like as a method, it will not have the exact same effect due to the fact that it's still lugged onward with an embodied mind that is capable of mentalization, that we're able to hold the kid's mind in mind in those minutes of resonance as we do EMDR therapy.
And for that, we likewise have to do our own work, which I have received a great deal of EMDR therapy. I need to know what it really feels to check out those shadows within me.
And I know you do that also, Lisa. When I have thought about my own experience with EMDR, what's typically landed for me is this concept of I have a method and it's up to me to bring it to life. That's just how I discuss it for myself.
Someone has to bring life to it. Someone has to bring it forth. And I have actually frequently assumed that that's where so much of the magic and the recovery takes place is the way in which the therapist brings it to life in an attuned way with the customer.
It's such a lovely tip of our role in the recovery procedure and our responsibility in the recovery process. Also. One of the things that I frequently tell my trainees is that we can not facilitate adjustment unless we can see something that our clients can recognize they're unable to see.
And when I hear you chatting concerning we have to go into our own winters months, I even love that language you're using. What comes to mind is this concept of if I don't know that my winter months can transform into summer season, after that I'm not going to have assurance when I'm with my client that their winter months can turn into summertime.
And I won't be able to hold a brand-new opportunity for my customer due to the fact that I have not been through it, to be able to claim it's possible, the integration, the improvement is possible since I do not understand. I would certainly like for you to speak more of that around therapists, possibly even obtaining embeded the tale with the clients or I don't understand.
As specialists is our very own duty to recognize what it feels like to relocate with something and what that can give our customers. Yeah, I enjoy that the analogy and how went from winters months to you took it to the next degree. As we experience likewise the spring and the summer, however we likewise discover the autumn, right.
I believe that we're much better outfitted to accompany one more human mind, personified mind, to do understand to go via that trip. And she speaks concerning mythology, which I'm fascinated by, that I simply like stories.
As we go through the abyss, then she said, which I like, this, the false self is going to begin to transform and then the authentic self emerges. And so via those travels, death and rejuvenation, then we discover that we are and eventually the among us that travel back and forth, then we learn to accompany others.
And so in EMDR treatment, we welcome those shadows. We welcome it's not simply a memory as a cognitive verbal narrative, however we accept the experiences from an embodied viewpoint.
I mean, there are minutes, even with my grown-up customers, where I really feel like so recognized to be in that moment and to be able to accompany an additional human being, to go to those deep levels, those deep places of our human presence. Those layers that are so deep, where you recognize that in that minute something was changed.
Those are deep minutes that you get goosebumps and you recognize, wow, something took place below. ? Yeah. I suggest, I'm also having emotion, paying attention and reflecting on what you're stating. I'm really feeling the power of what you're speaking about in my own remembrance of those minutes. And I know for me, it's why I chose to become a therapist, since I wished to be of service to a person.
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